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Implement Storage, Stumped for Answer, and a Walk-Out Basement

Today’s Ask the Guru answers reader questions about sue of beams for an implement storage building, a question stumps the Guru so he asks readers for help, and if a post frame building could be built with a walk-out basement.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I want to build a Implement Storage 60’ x 24’ pole barn that has 10’ high sides and is open on in the front of the 60’ side. We would like to use 12’ spacing on the 6×6 posts. We were thinking of using 2×12’s for the beams on top for the trusses to bear on.. Can we just use all 12’ long beams or do we need to use 24’ beams to stagger the joints at the post? KERRY

DEAR KERRY: There are far more efficient ways than using beams between trusses. I would suggest – use glulaminated columns, they are going to be stronger, straighter, lighter and pressure preservative treated far better than 6×6 timbers. Place trusses directly aligned with sidewall columns (this will eliminate need for truss carriers – beams between columns). Use a single truss on each endwall, double trusses at interior columns. This method eliminates risky truss-to-beam-to-column connections and provides for a greater clear height when entering building on open sidewall.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: 4″ wall thimble for micro boiler to fit flush against exterior siding as the rib would prevent this from happening. The ribbing runs vertical on my building. Do you have options/idea for a workaround for this? DAVE in VIROQUA

DEAR DAVE: You have me stumped. While I do not have your answer, I will post this up on “Ask the Pole Barn Guru” and see if some of our tens of thousands of readers have a good recommendation.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I have a sloped property and house with a walk out basement. I need a shop and the land drops naturally. Instead of using fill dirt I’ve considered a walk out basement with a pole barn. I’d like to be able to drive cars over the basement. Is that possible? TINA in IDAHO CITY

DEAR TINA: This is absolutely possible. Where you are excavating into your hillside, we can provide a Permanent Wood Foundation, incorporating columns for upper level into it. Your upper level floor can either have interior columns, beams and joists, or (and my preference) engineered floor trusses. Although on stilts, rather than cut in, this post frame garage has an elevated floor: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2022/11/what-to-do-when-the-old-post-frame-garage-has-issues/

What Kind of Footings? Beams? and Bi-Folds?

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: 34’x44′ pole barn middle is 20′ high and 14′ wide, the 2 outside parts are 10′ high by 10′ wide, frost level is 48″, snow load is 40lbs per sqft poles will be 6×6 what kind of footings will i need to have to support this building? MITCH in KAWARTHA LAKES

DEAR MITCH: The question would be best asked of the engineer who designed your building as there are innumerable factors which are going to influence the size of the footings. These include (but are not limited to) the allowable bearing pressure of the soil at the site; will the building be constrained by a concrete slab on grade; the wind speed and wind exposure; dead loads – actual building weight which will be transferred to each column; will there be a second floor or loft in a portion of the building (like the raised center)? What will be the spacing of the columns?

When clients invest in a new Hansen Pole Building, all of these factors are taken in consideration by our proprietary Instant Pricing system and included on the engineer sealed building plans and the supporting calculations.

In the event an engineer did not happen to design your building, it would behoove you to hire one to at least properly design the footings for you, if not the entire building. With a 40 psf (pounds per square foot) snow load, both drifting and sliding snow must be accounted for to prevent a catastrophic failure.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I am a high ropes builder and I have a camp that is on a tight budget but needs a new 30′ long balance beam for their high ropes course.
Question: Can you source such a pole for them or lead me to your supplier? I hope that is not 2 questions! 🙂 SHAWN in NASHVILLE

DEAR SHAWN: I have a client, whom I built a building for back in the 1990’s, who has become a good friend. He operates a high ropes course just north of Spokane, Washington: https://adventuredynamics.com/.

In answer to your question(s), since you are from Indiana, I would recommend contacting Stark Truss as they manufacture glu-laminated beams and columns which should be both affordable and straight. Here is the information on them: https://www.starktruss.com/products/perma-straight/.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Considering using a pole barn as the base structure for an airplane hangar, do you have the ability to customize a 40X60 barn to allow a large door opening of 40X10 and possibly hang a bifold door on it. MIKE in STEVENS

DEAR MIKE: Post frame buildings make excellent airplane hangars. We can customize virtually any building to accommodate a hangar door. Here is some reading about airplane hangars: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/commercial-buildings/airplane-hangars/.

Ideally, if you are planning upon placing the door in a 40 foot endwall, there would be several feet of wall left at each of the corners in order to most economically transfer shear loads to the ground. A 40 foot wide bi-fold door will also not fit on a 40 foot wall. (example of Endwall Shearwall)

We would need to have the specifications of your proposed bi-fold door, in order to properly design the end of your hangar to support the door.

See bi-fold door information here: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2015/02/hangar-doors-2/.