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Post Replacement, Truss Winches, and OSB to Roof

This Wednesday the Pole Barn Guru answers reader questions about the ability to replace posts damaged by termites, DIY truss winches, and adding OSB to a metal roof.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: We purchased property about 24 years ago with an existing Morton Barn. About 10 years ago we had an invasion of termites that loved the posts. We didn’t realize there were termites until damage was already done. How difficult is it to replace the posts that are damaged? Thanks, IRMA in DENISON

DEAR IRMA: 40 plus years and roughly 20,000 post frame buildings and I have yet to have a report of a properly pressure preservative column prematurely decaying, from any reason. Due to having never had to replace one, I cannot speak to any degree of ease or difficulty. There does happen to be a free download on how to achieve a repair: https://permacolumn.com/pdfs/perma-column-rotted-posts-repair-guide.pdf

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Dear Pole Barn Guru, I am getting ready to put up a small pole building that I will be turning into a cabin. It is 20×20 with 12′ eves. I am building my own truss winch system out of harbor freight boat winches that I will mount to the side of the poles and run up and over the top using a pulley cap. My question is should I be able to lift the entire truss system using 6 winches? Ideally I would have all the purlins in place and facia boards on as well and as a bonus I would like to add all the plywood sheeting so I don’t have to carry it up later. Would you think weight wise this is reasonable since it is such a small building? JOSH in VANCOUVER

DEAR JOSH: Having raised 80 foot clearspan trusses with winches, you should be just fine. You want to make certain to invest in winches with steel, rather than nylon, gears. They are slightly more, but you won’t regret it.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: My steel-framed metal building is 30ft X 60ft. My roof purlins are spaced 2 ft apart and wall girts are spaced 2 ft apart. I was planning to add 7/16 OSB with radiant barrier to roof and then apply a layer of Prodex Insulation on top of the OSB, then the R-channel Metal roofing panels. The OSB will add an additional approximate 2,800 lbs to the roof. Is that too much weight to add? Would I be better off with or without the OSB? Thanks. DAVID in SPRING BRANCH

DEAR DAVID: Adding 7/16″ OSB might be just fine, however you will need to reach out to your building manufacturer to get a confirmation from their engineer. Radiant barrier is waste of hard earned money installed between sheathing and roof steel, use a Synthetic Underlayment. If you skip adding OSB, and did not order roof steel with an Integral Condensation Control factory attached, then a well-sealed radiant barrier should be used between purlins and roof steel to minimize condensation.

DIY Post Frame Construction and Winch Boxes

Loyal reader and Hansen Pole Buildings’ client BOB in MOSINEE writes:

“Hello Mike,

This weekend I’m going to begin construction on my Hansen pole building. Very excited. You guys have been great to work with.

I had originally planned to have one built by one of the bigger named companies, but after seeing what they were quoting, I realized I could do this.

My question is around the use of hand winches to raise trusses or assembled truss / purlin sections. I really like the idea of building a section on the ground, from a safety aspect, then raising and attaching.

I read your blog post on the use of these and also did some digging online. As you stated, the amount of specific information is very limited.

Based on your past experience, have you heard of anyone mounting winches directly to a post using heavy screws / bolts (without any steel) box structure, or is that not a sufficient surface to attach to? I’ve got 30′ spans to lift, so maybe that would be pushing it?

Looking forward to your opinion!

Thanks.”

Thank you for reaching out to me and for your kind words. I wish more people would realize they are capable of erecting their own beautiful post frame buildings. They would not only save rfa lot of money, but they would also gain satisfaction from having buildings assembled better than what they would pay most builders to do.

Why? 

Because you will actually look at plans and follow instructions. When it comes down to it, your prerequisites are only you being physically capable and able to read and follow instructions in English!

I am all for building sections on terra firma and raising them up with winch boxes. I have done it more than once, with trusses spanning up to 80 feet.  Although probably not involving any new world order conspiracy, you are correct in this being a well-kept secret. While I have not personally tried mounting winches directly to columns without boxes, I know builders who have merely mounted a pulley wheel to column tops and then affixed winches directly to column faces and ground level with duplex nails, so your idea is not far-fetched. Each bay of your building weighs under 2000 pounds total (or less than 500 pounds per column) so it could be as simple as using say four or so of your five inch long Simpson screws for attachment as they will support over 250 pounds each and this would give a high degree of safety.

Now you have my opinion, I will be looking forward to your photos!

For extended reading on winch boxes: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2019/10/winch-boxes-a-post-frame-miracle/